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How much is a baby's life in Argentina?  For GlaxoSmithKline, apparently the price is $8,000.  And when you live in one of the poorest province in the country, that is a lot of money.

Because people in the US and in Europe wouldn't allow their babies to be test subjects in yet another new vaccine, GSK (GlaxoSmithKline) has decided to go to the poorest regions of the earth to do its clinical trials.  Since 2007, 15,000 children under the age of one from the Argentine provinces of Mendoza, San Juan and Santiago del Estero have been included in the research protocol.  Twelve babies have died as a result of the clinical trial directly related to vaccine, a vaccine said to prevent pneumococcal bacteria. 

But it gets worse. 

Informed consent "is a legal condition whereby a person can be said to have given consent based upon an appreciation and understanding of facts and implications of an action."

Argentine Federation of Health Professionals, known as Fesprosa, said that in most cases these are underprivileged individuals, many of them unable to read and write, who are pressured into including their children in the trials.

A great aunt of one of the babies that died said that a lot of people want to leave the protocol but aren't allowed; they force them to continue under the threat that if they leave, they won't receive any other vaccine. 

The article didn't state what the proposed brand name for this vaccine will be, but I imagine it comes with the standard things all the other vaccines contain -- the fillers -- that can be more harmful than the vaccine itself.

GSK is also conducting trials in Colombia and Panama for this proposed new vaccine. 

So why does it seem that the drug companies are moving more towards vaccines versus drugs?  Because they are shielded from lawsuits.  It's all about the almighty dollar and their almighty profits, and making people sick so they can take a whole bunch of their other drugs or more vaccines to negate the effects of other vaccines. 

I imagine once they've concluded their clinical trials, they'll get a green light from the FDA, who they also own, and try to convince politicians, many of whom they also own, that this new vaccine needs to be a mandated vaccine for every baby, at least here in the United States.  They wouldn't dare try to market it in Europe because their governments have been known to file charges of manslaughter for their products that have harmed their citizens, the last one France for some vaccine they were sticking people with other there. 

What do you all think about this new way of conducting research?  Why do we automatically believe the pharmaceutical companies have "our best interests" at heart and would always be trying to make our lives better?  Have you ever truly given "informed consent" when you vaccinated your children (meaning you found the list of ingredients in a Physician's Desk Reference and then researched what those fillers were)?  I certainly didn't when Patrick was little.  Now I wish I had asked more questions instead of just giving away my trust so easily.

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hereandnow read my blog
Jul 16, 2008 | 6:50 AM

What happened to the Hippocratic oath of "to help or at least do no harm" every nurse and doctor in this country has to take it. I wonder what they see in the mirror....disgusting

mik1of3 read my blog view my photos
Jul 16, 2008 | 11:23 AM

How much is a baby's life worth? Ask Eli Escobars parents...they got 1.5 mil for theirs.

PBMom read my blog view my photos
Jul 17, 2008 | 12:17 AM

Refresher mik1of3? Who is Eli Escobar? I'm bad with names.

PBMom read my blog view my photos
Jul 17, 2008 | 12:19 AM

Hereandnow: The medical community has changed. I think now it's "suggested guidelines." A lot of the people working at pharmaceutical firms are actually biochemists with Ph.D.s, but the doctors have become pushers for the new drug cartels, the pharmaceutical companies. Granted, there are many drugs that are good, so I don't want to condemn them all for everything they do, but I don't like where they've been the last decade and am scared to death of where they seem to be taking us in the future.

mik1of3 read my blog view my photos
Jul 18, 2008 | 11:28 AM

Eli Escobar was the 14 year old kid who ignored a cop's commands to stop, and when the cop tried to subdue him, Eli tried to kick him in the groin, tried to grab his gun (reports differ, but the fact remains the kid fought the cop) and ended up getting shot. By accident? Or on purpose? His parents sued and got 1.5 million...all because they never taught their son not to run from a cop.

About the drug community...I agree that there are many good drugs. I just don't think they are taking the time to test them properly..the companies are too eager to get them out there and start turning a profit to test them thoroughly enough. And we're supposed to give these things to our BABIES?
I think not.

Now, they're saying that fat kids should be put on cholesterol medication. My kid's doc wouldn't let me put her on a diet because he says it's too dangerous for a prepubescent child to play balancing act with calories and nutrition..but they expect me to put her on drugs for old people?

When pigs fly!!

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Mother of a 12-year-old child with autism, mild hypotonic CP, dyspraxia, MR and a seizure disorder. Married for 15 years. Have worked full-time as a telecommuter for the last 19 years. I've been the special needs minister at our church, but time demands haven't allowed me to go back. Published before in "Catholic Digest", and different poems in several books of poetry. I love 24, American Idol, Lost, Jericho and Sci-Fi (Stargate Atlantis, SG-1, Farscape, Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica) and Heroes. My husband and I are huge movie buffs. I love to swim. I love golden retrievers. They are awesome dogs. I used to sing/take formal vocal lessons and had a formal vocal recital at Hamman Hall at Rice University in the mid 1980's. Although my friends have encouraged me that I need to write about my life story, I've made several attempts and it isn't going too well. I love blogging. It's my new creative outlet. I am a member of Texas School Watch. Join us at: http://texasschoolwatch10
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