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As I was logging political highlights I came across this soundbite from Hillary Clinton at a Democratic debate last November.

"For him(John Edwards) to be throwing this kind of mud and making these charges really detracts from what we're trying to do here tonight."

Off the top of my head, since that night Hillary Clinton or representatives of her campaign have launched the following wet dirt at challenger Barack Obama.

1. Obama will be a weaker candidate because of his self-confessed drug use as a young man. (Clinton's New Hampshire Co-chair)

2. Obama made big bucks lawyering for a Chicago "slum lord".

3. Obama is a plagiarist who rips off the speeches of political allies.

4. Obama has broken federal election rules and should be "ashamed".

5. Back to the drug abuse well with surrogate Robert Johnson saying to a pro-Clinton crowd "Obama was doing something in the neighborhood he shouldn't of been doing"

6. High ranking Clinton campaign supporter Geraldine Ferraro's sudden revelation that if Obama were white or a woman he wouldn't be in position to win the nomination.

7. "Not as far as I know." Clinton's nuanced response when asked if she believes suggestions that Obama is a closet Muslim.

While Obama campaign has tossed back a few stones of it's own there has been no use (that I can recall) of  truly muddy Ammo like:

Questionable, enormously profitable Arkansas commodity trades

Whitewater

Travelgate

Vince Foster's suicide

Character assasination of women linked to the former president

Obama has apparently chosen to leave this well trodden turf in the dark corner of history's closet where most have decided it belongs.

 One has to wonder if the the candidate whose "tested and ready" but trailing would excercise the same restraint ?

The term "kitchen sink" comes to mind. Going negative helped the former first lady win Texas and Ohio.

 The clock is ticking.

 

 

 

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PBMom read my blog view my photos
Mar 19, 2008 | 5:00 PM

For me, the more Hillary attacks Obama, the better and better Obama looks for me, and the more I'm glad I voted for him in the primary.

chassan read my blog view my photos
Mar 19, 2008 | 9:49 PM

Greg & PB,

I agree with PB that Barack looks better everytime Hillary tosses unfounded dirt at him.

Hillary has more dirt up her sleeve. You can't bank on that, some of it will come from surrogates.

Hillary is used to dirty tactics. That's her style.

redtractortom read my blog
Mar 21, 2008 | 10:21 AM

I'm wondering how the country got stuck with these two as potential presidential candidates with all the capable people living in the United States? Are we sure the voting process was legitimate? After reading the dealings both of these people have been involved in they should be in jail, not trying to be president! I still go by the old saying from my childhood. "The guilty dog barks first".

I said it before that Hillary wants power and Obama wants the world!

scottythecomic read my blog view my photos
Mar 21, 2008 | 1:06 PM

Obama looks better? OMG. So you're saying that a man who has sat in a racist church for 20 years, having Black Liberation Theology preached at him, is fit to run the country? How would that be different if David Duke ran for Prez?

Foehammer read my blog view my photos
Mar 22, 2008 | 5:34 PM

Scottythecomic - He can't be blamed for what someone else has said. It's just that simple. It would be far different of he had MADE these comments but he didn't.

Redtractortom - Who in this world does not have a personal agenda? Not that I am agreeing with you that Clinton wants power and Obama wants the world. But I'm lost on the "guilty dog barks first." None of them are guilty of anything other than trying thier very best to win.

scottythecomic read my blog view my photos
Mar 22, 2008 | 8:35 PM

With all due respect, Foehammer, I beg to differ.

If I sat in a KKK church, or in a White Liberation Idological church, especially for 20 years, some of it would rub off on me.

Moreover, if I chose to run for office I can assure you that I would hear no end to how racist I was.

Were I you, I'd really check it to what Obama believes. I don't have any respect for him now. He failed to act. I place him alongside that racist, the UnReverend Wright.

Foehammer read my blog view my photos
Mar 23, 2008 | 9:40 AM

Scottythecomic - I understand where you're coming from. But look at it from this angle, if you would.

Have you ever heard of or personally known anyone who grew up in a family that was not tolerant of other races? And that person matured into a better person than his/her parents? They grew up to love everyone as equals? Without consideration of skin tone at all?

If so, then you can perhaps see where going to a church where some people may be racist would should not brand everyone a racist. Even if someone visited that church for an extended period of time.

Now don't get me wrong. I do know the reverse is possible. Going to a church where racism is preached CAN have an advese affect on someone who was not racist at first. I am not blind to that possibility. All I'm saying is that we can't assume the worst when the best may be standing in front of us.

What do you think?

scottythecomic read my blog view my photos
Mar 23, 2008 | 9:47 AM

I think I trust this best...

"Do not be misled. Bad company corrupts good character." (I Corinthians 15:33).

They influence your speech, dress, and mannerisms. They are your constant mirrors.

redtractortom read my blog
Mar 24, 2008 | 12:30 PM

Foehammer, my old saying comes from the premise the person who denies it first is the one who is guilty. With Hillary it's the same as Bill, when her mouth moves she is lying. Nothing that has come from her campaign without first going through her so she knows. Now she acts as though she is innocent. "NOT". Just as Obama thinks he can change the way things are run in Congress. "NOT"! Unless he uses some different means and those means may not be anything America wants!

Bluesqueen101 read my blog
Mar 25, 2008 | 11:10 AM

Yes, all of you make valid points, no, I did not vote for Obama in the primaries and will not vote for him when he is nominated at the convention, which I plan as a Democrat to attend to hear and see first hand just what is going on. We are now at over 4,000 deaths to date in Iraq, people are losing the homes they live in and some does not have anywhere to go, especially the elderly. We have over limit credit cards that we use to pay Peter when we cannot pay Paul, but all we can talk about is trivial mundane topics that does not relate to the economic crises we are in today! I am sick of the speeches. I am sick of the promises, back slamming and slapping. I wish all three candidates would just shut up with the posturing and preening for the cameras and start showing us what they can do in Congress. Go back to work! Are we still paying them while they are traveling all over the world on our shrinking dollar? Somebody help!

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