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by BARK from University of Houston

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First question: Who can tell me what human rights China violated?

 

Second question: Are we holier than thou?

 

Third question: Why?

 

 

We are boycotting Olympic games…

For human right violations…

I wish this made sense to me.

 

“Enemy Combatants”

“Water Boarding”

“Abu Gharib”

“Habeas Corpus”

 

Maybe these words matter. Maybe they don’t. But they are fact.

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Isci_the_Weatherman read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 5:47 AM

People in China do not have freedom of religion, press or speech...we do. Do you not see that? In fact, just the fact that you posted this blog shows that you have more freedom than the Chinese do.

BARK read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 12:27 PM

Good point. However not the point.

Tons of places have more freedom than we do. Other have less. Use freedom house or anything else it is all relative, but how hypocritical does it look to condemn others for the same things we do. I'm not saying we are as bad. I should not even use the royal we.

I as an American am apalled that other nations look to us and see a country who violates international law and human rights accords thencondemns others for it.

What I am asserting is that we need to clean up our own backyard before we go talking about someone elses.

Yes we have freedoms. And we assert them and the greatness we derive from them anytime we are faced with our mistakes.

Guy in Germany says, "Americans torture prisoners."

Guy in America says, "Yeah but we have freedom of speech."

Great I have the freedom of speech. I can rant all day long about the evils we do. Fanfreakintastic.

Do I have the freedom to change it, or have so many barriers been drawn up and placed in my way that my freedom to effect change has been hindered?

Great I can talk.

Can I act?

BARK read my blog view my photos
May 21, 2008 | 12:29 PM

If you want a good nation stop where we are and get complacent, But if you want a great nation constant maintenence is required.

We live in a good nation.

With all the potential we have that is very sad.

Skyder read my blog view my photos
May 22, 2008 | 7:51 AM

Bark, you are comparing apples to grapes here. All of the things you listed as a "violation of human rights" are things done only to the criminal element, or at times of war. The oppression of the Chinese is to a people as a whole, not just isolated cases.
What country has "Tons more freedom"?

BARK read my blog view my photos
May 31, 2008 | 2:18 PM

Thats what people don't seem to understand. How is it that when our nation sits down to these summits like Geneva, and we give our word to act a certain way DURING war, we feel fine with changing it when one really happens?

Our police violate human rights here. They act in ways that are disgraceful sometimes. Not always don't get all fatalistic, sometimes.

It is the nature of the beast.

If there are bad people in a place bad things will happen. America is America because we made systems to be above falling to the level of depravity of our enemies. But everytime we change the rules in the middle of the game we look like cheaters.

I find it WHOLLY unpatriotic to feel one has the right to circumvent or undermine documents like the constitution with the War powers act. Fair Credit with the Patriot. FISA for Fed. It is like saying all our predecessors were useless.

Skyder read my blog view my photos
Jun 3, 2008 | 3:12 PM

The Geneva was written for rules governing a war between militaries. Now if we are fighting the Iraqi Rebulican Guard, the the rules to the Geneva convention apply, but when you are fighting cowards, hiding amongst general population, cutting the heads off of their prisoners of "war", and blowing up innocent men, women and children, then all bets are off. Personally, I would be cutting little pieces of them off, from wherever I could think of next, until they either died, or confessed.
And you never answered what country has "tons more freedom"... because you can't

BARK read my blog view my photos
Jun 4, 2008 | 10:22 AM

"The Geneva was written for rules governing a war between militaries"

This I do not understand. Most people who speak like you can not differentiate between 'militia' and 'civilian,' but you can between 'military' and 'non-combatant?'


"Now if we are fighting the Iraqi Rebulican Guard, the the rules to the Geneva convention apply, but when you are fighting cowards, hiding amongst general population, cutting the heads off of their prisoners of "war", and blowing up innocent men, women and children, then all bets are off"

This is a problem. Not even the Rupblican Guard was given Geneva protection.

And look if you want to go out and destroy a nation then say "why aren't you a nation?" I get it. Sure there is no central national army because we destroyed it. So now we fight with civilians? If they are not a military they are civilians, correct? So after we beat the military we fight their people. They are not hiding and coming out to fight, they are at home with guns, we invaded, not them. I would never call a man who defends his home a coward. What would you do if Iraq invaded us and beat our military and then did not leave?

You, Skyder, are just like Hussein, and Bin Laden in that you just want to eradicate your enemies and blame it on their fault rather than your own propensity to violence.

"Personally, I would be cutting little pieces of them off, from wherever I could think of next, until they either died, or confessed."

When they do it they are cowards, but YOU are a patriot right. Killing isn't really killing when WE do it. Your a joke.

"and yo

BARK read my blog view my photos
Jun 4, 2008 | 10:34 AM

"And you never answered what country has "tons more freedom"... because you can't"

RSF has us ranked 48 in the lower states and 112 in our extra territorial lands for press freedom.

A ranking of surveilance societies has us listed as among the worst offender in the following categories: Statutory protection, privacy enforcement, ID cards, video surveilance, communication interception, workplace/medical/travel surveilance, border issues and leadership.

HDI has us as 12th

Freedom house has us ranked 16th out of 75 free press societies.

Just because you think and feel something does not mean it can always stand up to scientific methods. But let me guess all the calculus of these orginaztions is wrong and your feelings are right, huh?

Don't tell me I can't disprove your over emotional-feelings-based argument with simple quantitative methods.

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